Pre-Tribulation Rapture

rapture copyCommentary by:  Gordon King

Hello folks!  I hope and pray that all are well.

You know, I often hear from many Christians who tell me that I am wrong in my beliefs of a “pre-tribulation” rapture of the church.  They not only tell me that I am wrong, but that I am misleading others into damnation.  That I am a false teacher, that I do not know the truth and that I am a fool. 

Well, I am very disappointed in my fellow brothers in Christ.  To label me as a fool, false teacher and misleading others into damnation is very harsh, unjustified and foolish.   Not only is it foolish, it is unwise.  These Christians are angering God Almighty.  For you are accusing a child of God of blasphemy.  You are provoking God to anger!  Is this what you wish to do?  Make God angry with you?  I sure hope not.  This is just a warning from the Holy Spirit who is leading me to write this.  It has been heavy on my heart and in my spirit.

I need to make a few things clear.  First of all, I never said that the rapture of the church was going to definitely be “pre-trib”.  Never did I say this.  I said that I “believe” it will be.  Big difference.  Nor did I ever accuse others of such things, who believe in a “mid”, “post” or “no-trib” rapture of the church.  I do believe in a pre-tribulation rapture of the church, and I feel that the bible gives us more proof of this then of a “mid”, “post” or “no-trib” rapture.  When I write posts or make videos, I do come from a “pre-trib” view point.  I sometimes argue the point with other believers, but in peace and kindness, not hatred.  We as Christians must remember the fruits of the Spirit.  To treat another Christian in any other way is not from God.

Jesus himself told us that no one knows when he will return for the church.  No one!  Not even Jesus himself knows, but only the Father knows.  Therefore, if you believe in “mid” or “post-trib”, and definitely know it to be true, then I say who do you think you are?  Do you think that you are better than Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior?  That you know more than he does?

I believe in a pre-tribulation rapture, but, I do not know this to be a fact.  It certainly could be “mid” or “post-trib”.  I highly doubt it, but it could be.  I definitely do not believe in a “no-rapture” theory.  The bible clearly tells us that we will be raptured.  For those of you who argue that the word “rapture” does not even appear in the bible, I argue that you are incorrect.  Sure the word “rapture” does not appear in English, but it does appear in Greek.  Thessalonians 4:17 says that we shall be “caught up”.  Simply a play on words, semantics.  So if you believe the bible to be true, then you believe in the “rapture” or the “caught up” of the church.  Call it whatever you want, it’s the same thing.

1 Thessalonians 4:17

“17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

If the rapture or “caught up” does not happen, then why does it mention it in the bible?  What else is this speaking of?

The rapture of the church is insignificant regarding the gospel of Jesus Christ.  It in no way affects our salvation.  The gospel is what is truly important, not when the rapture of the church will be.

I do not understand the thinking of Christians who believe in a “mid” or “post” tribulation rapture.  I am not condemning them at all, by no means.  I just do not understand their thought process.

They tell me that to believe in a “pre-trib” rapture, then you will not be ready for the “Tribulation Period”.  Well, I ask you, what does it take to be ready for the tribulation period?  Just what can we do to be prepared?  The only thing that I can think of to be prepared is to be saved.  That’s it.  Nothing more, nothing less.  If you are a true believer in Christ, a true Christian, then you should be ready.

If you believe in a “mid” or “post-trib” rapture, then you may not be ready.  You may think that you have plenty of time left.  Well, I say that you should always be ready.  If you believe in a “pre-trib” rapture, then you will be ready for the tribulation period if it comes before the rapture does.  What else could you possibly do to get ready for the tribulation period, what?!  I don’t get it.  Please tell me.

I think that many of the people who refuse to believe in a pre-tribulation rapture, do not want to leave.  They like it here.  They want to continue to live in the world.  They are not prepared to meet their maker. 

I say, that you should be ready now, not after the tribulation period begins.  So what harm does it do to believe in a “pre-trib” rapture?  The only argument I hear is that you will not be ready for the tribulation period, which makes no sense whatsoever.  I say, that if you are ready for the rapture, then you are already set for the tribulation period.  I don’t think that many people understand just how bad the tribulation period will be.  It will be worse than at any time in the history of man, all six thousand years.  There is nothing else you can do to prepare, other than to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, walk with him daily and do his will for you in your life.  Live for God, not for yourselves.

You should be ready now, walking with God daily.  This is the only way to be ready, PERIOD!

There are many who think that they are prepared.  Or that they will have time.  But, like 5 of the ten virgins, my oil lamp is full.  What about yours?  Are you prepared to meet Jesus in the air?  Or do you think that you can wait until after the tribulation period begins?

God Bless!

16 thoughts on “Pre-Tribulation Rapture

  1. I am ready. And I certainly cast no stones at those who are hoping to be raptured before the age of trouble. But its getting dark out…Even so, come Lord Jesus.

  2. It is getting dark, and it is about to get much, much darker. Jesus did not tell us that we would not go through any tribulation. On the contrary, we will go through much tribulation. As Christians have for thousands of years.
    God Bless! Maranatha

  3. Hi Gordon,
    Not only did Paul say that those in Christ will be CAUGHT UP IN THE AIR to forever be with the Lord, but he also said to COMFORT one another with these words!

    The Lord knows those who are attacking you and they will have to give account one day, and perhaps they may even be LEFT BEHIND!

    Thank you for TRYING to COMFORT US!

    Mt5:10 states ‘Blessed are ye men revile you and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely for my sake’. God bless you even more! \o/

  4. Thank you Shofar for your words of encouragement. I realize the persecution you are speaking of and I praise God for it. I just felt led by the Holy Spirit to write these words.
    God bless!

  5. The timing of the rapture seems to be a hot button with lots of people. I have been doing a ton of studying on the signs of Christs return and the rapture of the church. I’m by no means an expert, nor do I claim to be certain above any definate timing. But I have found several scriptures that appear to me to indicate the rapture is “pre-trib.” The one that spoke most plainly to me is in Rev. 3:7-13. This is where Christ is giving His message to the church in Philadelphia. In verse 10 Christ specifically says ” Because you have kept the word of My perserverance, I will also keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.” To me this is so plainly talking about being kept from the tribulation.

  6. Yes Channy, I agree. Also Revelation 4:1 “After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, “Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this.” 2 “Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne set in heaven, and One sat on the throne.”

    The first three chapters of Revelation speak of the church, after that, no church until the Second coming of Christ. I believe that chapter 4 verse 1 and 2 are referring to the “rapture”, before the “tribulation period” begins.
    Also:
    1 Thessalonians 5:9-10 9″ For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him.”

    God Bless!

  7. You are correct, in that both the scripture in Rev 4 and 1Thess., indicate(at least in my opinion) a pre-trib rapture. I have also found that the 1 Thess. scriptures are ones that are often debated with me. I have been told several times that the wrath spoken of is the damnation of those that do not know Christ. To me it seems that the difference between divine judgement and wrath are two very different things. Stay safe and God bless.

  8. Yes I agree. The wrath of God is during the Tribulation Period, and the Judgement will be when the unbelievers come face to face with Jesus.
    God Bless!

  9. When these things BEGIN TO COME TO PASS, THEN LOOK UP, LIFT UP YOUR HEAD, FOR YOUR REDEMPTION DRAWETH NIGH! Not after, not before, but when the bad things BEGIN TO COME TO PASS, then the RAPTURE WILL OCCUR!

    JESUS CHRIST in Lk21:28

  10. i’m ready for whenever he comes in the rapture which I prefer or the trib. When you’re ready your’re ready there’s no overready. Thanks Gordon for the encouragement!

  11. I agree that to disagree about the timing of the rapture is nothing to fight about because none of us know. Now I have always believed pre-trib until recently and I would love to hear opinions about the scripture that is now making me doubt the pre-trib belief. In Revelation chapter 20 verses 4 and 5 as the beast is being chained for a thousand years and those that have died refusing the mark of the beast are set on thrones, John says This is the first resurection so if this is the first resurection what about the one where the dead in Christ rise first then we which remain are caught up?

  12. That is what he is talking about. The ones in the first resurrection before the millennium. He is not talking about the rapture of the church here.
    God Bless!

  13. 2 Peter 3:16 in the context of Jesus coming as a thief in the night (verse 10), tells us that those who do not have the correct doctrine concerning the end times, “…twist scripture as they always do…”. That is very serious and should not be taken lightly. It appears here that if you cannot get your doctrine right concerning the end times it is an indicator that you twist the Word of God pertaining to all scripture. This is very serious! There is only one correct doctrine, but all others are doctrines of man, which the Word also calls doctrines of devils. That too is very serious! So its not just a debate of pretrib, midtrib, or post-trib, but a spiritual war between righteousness and unrighteousness. To advocate for one view is serious business! You’d better know that you are right, here’s why:

    You say that you could be wrong, but believe in the pretrib doctrine, and advocate for and have a pretrib blog. There is serious consequences if you are wrong. Recall the parable of the sower that Jesus told. In it there was compact soil, weedy soil, rocky soil, and fertile soil. The weedy soil was those who loved the pleasures of this world, and the rocky soil were those who received the word with gladness, but then when tribulation and persecution came they fell away Mark 4:17. The Chinese church leaders who lived through their tribulation and persecution in this last century in China were remorseful that they had ever taught the pretrib doctrine. This was because when persecution fell, they were all prepared to be raptured, and when that didn’t happen they immediately stumbled, like Jesus promises in Mark 4:17. There was a huge falling away, or apostasy. 2 Thess. 2:3 speaks of this falling away / apostasy / turning from one’s faith. The Chinese leaders wished instead that they had taught their people to be ready to embrace persecution.

    You see if you are wrong concerning your doctrine, then how many of your followers will you be responsible for their turning away from their faith? Will you also become one of the mockers who say, “where is the promise of His coming?” The pretrib doctrine and the parable of the sower concerning the rocky soil goes hand in hand. Historically it has proven to be true in China. History tends to repeat itself, and the U.S. is prime to experience this same apostasy.

    You say that a christian should be ready for tribulation, but Jesus makes it clear that many do not have the fertile soil necessary to stand when tribulation and persecution come. The fact of the matter is that the pretrib view is seeker friendly and those who embrace it are those who like the idea of escaping the pain of persecution. Who wouldn’t want to escape it? Often I get asked, “why would you want to go through the tribulation?” As if what I wanted has anything to do with the truth of God’s Word. We don’t get to pick and choose truth. There is only one. the rest is lies. God Himself send a delusion upon those who do not love the truth 2 Thess. 2:9-12.

    Some of those who hold the pretrib view belief that Luke 21:36 is their strongest argument for it, “Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” If escape means rapture and the only requirement to be raptured is to be saved, then why would Jesus tell us to pray ALWAYS that we would be saved? And what does worthiness, or works have to do with salvation? Why would a pretribber ever pray this prayer? It would be faithless and futile. Think about it! If you are a pretrib believer, have you EVER prayed this prayer you are commanded to “pray always.” Waist of time if you are saved, you will be raptured.. PERIOD! However if you knew that you were going to have to go through all that was coming upon the earth, you would be praying for God’s protection and your worthiness to escape it.

    Furthermore Jesus told us that He would come as “a thief in the night”. In 1 Thess. 5:3 the pretrib have no problem seeing the context of the “caught up” just a few verses prior and understand this to be the rapture. Yet in other places where Jesus comes as “a thief in the night” 2Pet 3:10 and Rev. 16:15 the doctrine tells us it’s not the rapture, but the second coming. The doctrine goes on to say that there is no imminent surprise of the second coming because it is exactly 7 years afterward, and therefore Jesus cannot come as “a thief in the night”, but His timing is declared. The truth be told, there can only be one “thief in the night” event. Peter who writes to the Gentiles gives us the same timeline that Jesus gives in Matt. 24:29-31. “Immediately after the tribulation…He will gather His elect…” The “thief in the night” event is singular in nature, and carries the only element of surprise. It is the rapture and cannot be the second coming.

    We are told that we are not ASSIGNED to God’s wrath. Isn’t that wonderful! This isn’t about escaping earth. Read Psalm 91, it’s about God protecting His own. He has a history of doing just that with Noah and Lot. They were never raptured, but experienced it all from Earth.

    What I have stated here is truth, there is no conjecture or speculation. Many of the comments above are filled with conjecture and speculation. For example: Rev. 4:1 pertains to the rapture… total conjecture and speculation just to make their view work for them.

  14. Pretrib Rapture Pride

    Pretrib rapture promoters like Thomas Ice give the impression they know more than the early Church Fathers, the Reformers, the greatest Greek New Testament scholars including those who produced the KJV Bible, the founders of their favorite Bible schools, and even their own mentors!
    Ice’s mentor, Dallas Sem. president John Walvoord, couldn’t find anyone holding to pretrib before 1830 – and Walvoord called John Darby and his Brethren followers “the early pretribulationists” (RQ, pp. 160-62). Ice belittles Walvoord and claims that several pre-1830 persons, including “Pseudo-Ephraem” and a “Rev. Morgan Edwards,” taught a pretrib rapture. Even though the first one viewed Antichrist’s arrival as the only “imminent” event, Ice (and Grant Jeffrey) audaciously claim he expected an “imminent” pretrib rapture! And Ice (and John Bray) have covered up Edwards’ historicism which made a pretrib rapture impossible! Google “Morgan Edwards’ Rapture View” and journalist/historian Dave MacPherson’s “Deceiving and Being Deceived” for documentation on these and similar historical distortions.
    The same pretrib defenders, when combing ancient books, deviously read “pretrib” into phrases like “before Armageddon,” “before the final conflagration,” and “escape all these things”!
    BTW, the KJV translators’ other writings found in London’s famed British Library (where MacPherson has researched) don’t have even a hint of pretrib rapturism. Is it possible that Ice etc. have found pretrib “proof” in the KJV that its translators never found?
    Pretrib merchandisers like Ice claim that nothing is better pretrib proof than Rev. 3:10. They also cover up “Famous Rapture Watchers” (on Google) which shows how the greatest Greek NT scholars of all time interpreted it.
    Pretrib didn’t flourish in America much before the 1909 Scofield Bible which has pretribby “explanatory notes” in its margins. Not seen in the margins was jailed forger Scofield’s criminal record throughout his life that David Lutzweiler has documented in his recent book “The Praise of Folly” which is available online.
    Biola University’s doctrinal statement says Christ’s return is “premillennial” and “before the Tribulation.” Although universities stand for “academic freedom,” Biola has added these narrow, restrictive phrases – non-essentials the founders purposely didn’t include in their original doctrinal statement when Biola was just a small Bible institute! And other Christian schools have also belittled their founders.
    Ice, BTW, has a “Ph.D” issued by a tiny Texas school that wasn’t authorized to issue degrees! Ice now says that he’s working on another “Ph.D” via the University of Wales in Britain. For light on the degrees of Ice’s scholarliness, Google “Bogus degree scandal prompts calls to wind up University of Wales,” “Thomas Ice (Bloopers),” “be careful in polemics – Peripatetic Learning,” and “Walvoord Melts Ice.” Also Google “Thomas Ice (Hired Gun)” – featured by media luminary Joe Ortiz on his Jan. 30, 2013 “End Times Passover” blog.
    Other fascinating Google articles include “The Unoriginal John Darby,” “X-raying Margaret,” “Margaret Macdonald’s Rapture Chart,” “Pretrib Rapture’s Missing Lines,” “Edward Irving is Unnerving,” “Pretrib Rapture Politics,” “Pretrib Rapture Secrets,” “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty,” “Pretrib Hypocrisy,” “Pretrib Rapture Secrecy,” and “Roots of Warlike Christian Zionism” – most from the author of “The Rapture Plot” (the most accurate documentation on pretrib rapture history) which can be obtained by calling 800.643.4645.
    Can anyone guess who the last proud pretrib rapture holdout will be?
    (Postscript: For another jolt or two Google “The Background Obama Can’t Cover Up.”)

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