Peaceful Islam, What’s Your Opinion?

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Commentary By:  Gordon King

Hello folks, I hope and pray that all are well.

I recently received a rather long comment on a post that I made late yesterday evening: “Islam Growing in Strength and Numbers”.

https://endtimebibleprophecy.wordpress.com/2013/09/29/islam-growing-in-strength-and-numbers/

This gentleman is from an Islamic school in London, England.  He has written me many long emails of this nature.  I have posted his comment here along with my response to him.  The reason that I am posting this is to get your viewpoint on the matter.  He seems to think that I am misguided and misinformed about Islam.

He feels that there are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world and that the religion is peaceful and loving;  that it is only the minority killing, torturing, hating, imprisoning, etc.

I would appreciate comments, however, please keep them civil (I’m sure you will).  🙂

September 29, 2013 – 1:29 pm iftikhara

Islam in Arabic means Peace and as any faith, you will judge it by its peaceful majority from the 1.6 billions members and not from a non significant extremist radical minority and their cultural upbringing that has nothing to do with the faith. These extremists exist from Jews settling inside Palestinians Occupied Territories to those who sexually abuse children in Catholicism to Evangelists and their Mega Churches and the $millions wasted on leaders lifestyles to Buddhists who are killing ethnic minority Muslims in Burma and the list continue. LET US CONCENTRATE ON THE MAJORITY OF FAITHFUL AND START BUILDING A FAIR PICTURE BASED ON HOPE, PEACE, LOVE AND MUTUAL RESPECT FOR ALL.

Muslims are not one group of people.

1. An advisor to Jimmy Carter told Counterpunch in 1998 that “There isn’t a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion.”

2. This was with reference to the question of whether the CIA’s arming of the Mujahedeen was a dangerous move because in 1998 people had begun to perceive “Islamic terrorism” as a threat.

3. The advisor asked “what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing…”

4. The imagined beast which, for many, consists of the “Islamic world” is a delusion caused by the choice of brush with which NATO has lately been tarring its chosen victims.

Islam is the first religion which systematically empowered women when women were considered as totally subservient to man. There was no concept of her being an independent entity and enjoying equal right with dignity. We live in a country where women are over-sexualised and sold as ‘products’ for capitalist gains. A woman’s beauty is splashed around everywhere, and she is only judged by that. Islam tells a woman to cover up so that she is not abused as Western women are. Islam provides the security and respect to women community than other religions. The western countries are using the women as an entertainment channels. All the women in the world should think about themselves then decide what is right and what is wrong for them in other religions (than Islam)

What is feminism? Nothing but women’s movement to empower her and to consider her full human being and not mere second sex as ‘Simon de Bouire called her. Thus we see in western countries until early part of twentieth century she did not enjoy an independent status. It was only after thirties of twentieth century that she won equal status legally and various western countries passed the laws to this effect. Yet patriarchy is looming large on her in these countries.

Qur’an empowered her and gave equal status. Another important question is what is the difference between Islamic and western feminism or is there any difference at all. If we go by definition of feminism as an ideology of empowerment of women, there is no difference. On the other hand, women had no rights and but won through great deal of struggle and this struggle came to be known as ‘feminism’ i.e. women’s empowerment.

Islam started since the first prophet (pbuh). And so did Islam continue to Moses (pbuh), Jesus (pbuh) and then the final prophet Mohammed (pbuh). God has send prophets to all nations at all times. So I think you don’t even know what Islam means.

You have to understand Regarding the violent Verses in the Qur’an according to their Context, where those verses Were Revealed, what was the purpose, and why they Were Revealed & What was the condition of Muslim & you have to be contextualize.

Verses regarding violence were Revealed during wars, or when Muslims were expelled from their homes, and killed, and butchered, then hose violence Verses were revealed to take Action against Enemy of Muslims and Islam !

Islam is a peaceful religion, terrorism arose in response to the massive killings done by the west in Muslim lands, starting with Afghanistan, and now the Arab world where the West is interfering now.

As a Muslim I’m taught that I have 2 kinds of brother, brothers in Islam, and brothers in humanity, that’s why I love everyone unconditionally. I believe in the truth and the truth is that Islam does not allow the deaths of innocents and you’re cherry-picking and misinterpreting and taking out of context. According to Islam, as a Muslim who studied it for more than a decade, is AGAINST the killings of innocents. Don’t judge a faith from the misguidance of others. It is a sin in Islam to kill innocent people including children, women and elderly. You are fooled by your media and anti-Islamists misinterpreting the sources of Islam.
IA
London School of Islamics Trust
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

Response: Gordon King

September 29, 2013 – 5:50 pm Gordon King

That is very, very sad. 1.6 billion Muslims, and they cannot condemn the ones that are killing, murdering, torturing, raping, sodomizing and hating. Unbelievable. The Quran commands Muslims to do these things. The ones that are performing these heinous acts are following the command of Allah. It is written in the Quran. How can you deny that? What I read was not taken out of context.

I also love everyone, that is why I do not want to see anyone perish. If you want to practice your religion in peace, fine with me. It is your free will. But, the horrible, inhuman behavior of what seems to be millions of Muslims around the world, is unacceptable. People need to be made aware.

If Christians around the world were committing such heinous crimes as these Muslims are, the world would be outraged! Yet, it seems to be ok for a Muslim to behead a Christian or a Jew? That is love? You should be spending your time reaching out to your Muslim brothers and sisters who are committing these atrocities, instead of posting on Christian websites. It may be much more productive (probably not).

I am praying for Muslims around the world, believe me I am. God bless!

Here are just a few quotes:

Sura: 2:224 You shall fight in the cause of God, and know that God is Hearer, Knower.

Sura: 3:64: “Verily Allah has cursed the Unbelievers (whom he defined as Christians in the 5th surah “Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends.) and has prepared for them a Blazing Fire to dwell in forever. No protector will they find, nor savior. That Day their faces will be turned upside down in the Fire. They will say: ‘Woe to us! We should have obeyed Allah and obeyed the Messenger!’ ‘Our Lord! Give them double torment and curse them with a very great Curse!’”

Sura 3:151 “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”.

Sura: 4:74 Those who readily fight in the cause of God are those who forsake this world in favor of the Hereafter. Whoever fights in the cause of God, then gets killed, or attains victory, we will surely grant him a great recompense.

Sura: 4:84 You shall fight for the cause of God; you are responsible only for your own soul, and exhort the believers to do the same. God will neutralize the power of those who disbelieve. God is much more powerful, and much more effective.

Sura: 4:89 “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”

Sura: 4:101 When you travel, during war, you commit no error by shortening your Contact Prayers (Salat), if you fear that the disbelievers are your ardent enemies.

Sura: 4:104 Do not waiver in pursuing the enemy. If you suffer, they also suffer. However, you expect from God what they never expect. God is Omniscient, Most Wise.

Sura: 4:157 And for claiming that they killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of God. In fact, they never killed him, they never crucified him – they were made to think that they did. All factions who are disputing in this matter are full of doubt concerning this issue. They possess no knowledge; they only conjecture. For certain, they never killed him.

Sura: 5:33 The just retribution for those who fight God and His messenger, and commit horrendous crimes, is to be killed, or crucified, or to have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or to be banished from the land. This is to humiliate them in this life, then they suffer a far worse retribution in the Hereafter.

Sura 5:51: “O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he among you that turns to them for friendship is of them.”

Sura 5:73 Pagans indeed are those who say that God is a third of a trinity. There is no god except the one god. Unless they refrain from saying this, those who disbelieve among them will incur a painful retribution.

Sura 8:59 Let not those who disbelieve think that they can get away with it; they can never escape.

Sura 8:60 You shall prepare for them all the power you can muster, and all the equipment you can mobilize, that you may frighten the enemies of God, your enemies, as well as others who are not know to you; God knows them. Whatever you spend in the cause of God will be repaid to you generously, without the least injustice.

Sura 9:5 Once the Sacred Months are past, (and they refuse to make peace) you may kill the idol worshippers when you encounter them, and resist every move they make.

Sura 9:14 You shall fight them, for God will punish them at your hands, humiliate them, grant you victory over them, and cool the chests of the unbelievers.

Sura 9:29 You shall fight back against those who do not believe in God, nor in the Last Day, nor do they prohibit what God and His messenger have prohibited, nor do they abide by the religion of truth – among those who received the scripture – until they pay the due tax, willingly or unwillingly.

Sura: 9:30 “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”

Sura 9:39 “If you do not fight, He will punish you severely, and put others in your place”

Sura 9:73 O you prophet, strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern in dealing with them. Their destiny is Hell; what a miserable abode!

Sura 9:111 God has bought from the believers their lives and their money in exchange for Paradise. Thus, they fight in the cause of God, willing to kill and get killed. Such is His truthful pledge in the Torah, the Gospel, and the Quran – and who fulfills His pledge better than God? You shall rejoice in making such an exchange. This is the greatest triumph.

Sura: 9:123 “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.

Sura 17:16 If we are to annihilate any community, we let the leaders commit vast corruption therein. Once they deserve retribution, we annihilate it completely.

Sura 25:52 Therefore, do not obey the disbelievers, and strive against them with this, a great striving.

Sura: 33:60-62 “If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter.”

Sura 48:29 Muhammad – the messenger of God – and those with him are harsh and stern against the disbelievers, but kind and compassionate amongst themselves….

Sura 61:4 God loves those who fight in His cause united in one column, like the bricks in one wall.

Sura 66:9 O prophet, struggle against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be stern with them. Their abode is Gehenna, and a miserable destiny.

Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”

Abu Dawud (14:2526) – The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, “There is no god but Allah” and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)

Muslim (1:33) – the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Bukhari (8:387) – Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally.”

Bukhari (11:626) – [Muhammad said:] “I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes.”

Muslim (1:149) – “Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause…”

17 thoughts on “Peaceful Islam, What’s Your Opinion?

  1. This gentleman is so wrong on so many accounts I’m not even sure where to begin. He is either very naive or has not read the entire Quran. The Quran expressly tells it’s adherents to kill Christians and others who do not believe in Allah.

    In nations where the Muslim faith reigns supreme or close to it, the radical factions of Islam will kill their own people who do not in their minds subscribe to the violence they deem to be a very integral part of the Islamic faith. This is not my opinion, it is fact.

    Islam has given women status? Please be serious. While I agree that women covering themselves better is a great idea, I do not believe for one moment that the Islamic faith does women any favors. A woman has to have a male brother or her father’s permission to do almost anything! This is freedom and equality? If a woman disobeys her husband in the Islamic faith, she can be beaten for it. She can be killed for some offenses, and it is called an “honor killing”. How can a man willingly kill his own daughter sister or wife?

    The goal of Islamic faith is to have countries ruled by Sharia law…which is very harsh.

    If a Christian so much as picks up a Quran and returns it to it’s rightful owner, that person can be killed for doing so. This has happened and has been in the news! No one seems to blink an eye over this kind of stuff. Christian churches are burned, Christians are killed because they will not renounce Christ. This is peace? Yet if a Christian were to kill a Muslim, that is a terrible thing and will get much attention. The one who did so will receive death threats and quite possibly will be killed. I do agree that it is not a good thing to kill a Muslim or for that matter anyone else.

    If a Muslim that truly is a peace loving person speaks out against the violence and killing done by other Muslims…woe to him, they can be and often are killed for doing so.

    I believe the Quran also states that no mortal can be in heaven with Allah. Yet is also states that Jesus was never God but a mortal man…and yet Jesus is now in heaven with Allah and will return to tell the world He lied about being God. I got his from Perry Stone, but I cannot find the appropriate passages.

    God bless
    Greg

  2. Thank you for your comments Greg, I agree with you and think you are right on target. Very well said. I believe the Quran also states to not associate with Jews, yet, what was Jesus? He was a Jew! Bit of a contradiction. I did not even get into a discussion about sex with children or other forms of sodomy.
    Amen, God bless!

  3. This is a much needed article, would you be able to do a follow up on more of the Quran and how muslims view and treat women being that this supporter of Islam addresses this subject. Great Job, Thank You so much for having the guts to tell the truth! I love your website and use your articles often in my Bible study group! Sharon…

  4. Thank you so much for your encouragement! Yes, I agree, we need some more discussion on this topic in general.
    You know, I wanted to include more in my response, however, I already had plenty of quotes just on the one topic. But, I agree with you we need to uncover the other truths of Islam. I will surely try to work on the subject of “How women of Islam” are treated.
    Thank you for following my site, I am honored that you are using my articles in your bible study. May God Bless all of you! Amen 😉

    “And the truth shall set you free”

  5. That is why Sweden is now the capital of rape in Europe and second only to South Africa in the rest of the world. Islamic immigration has resulted in, one in every four women in Sweden will be raped. This is your religion of peace and love? How much longer will we allow this? Just like the Nazi’s, it’s like feeding the tiger in the hope he will eat us last! The Muslim tiger is eating it’s way to your house now!

  6. Islam is hostile to everything that is not islamic. Islam is not a religion but rather an parasitic cultural poison cloaked in religion every time I see one of their Mosques I can’t help but to think of the trojan horse Troy permitted into their gates. Islam and the leftist ideology are allies in the fight against the American value system and America itself ( Obama the leftist commander in chief against America said it best when he said, “I want to fundamentally transform America”).

  7. In my opinion Islam doesn’t even get off the ground – ask your Muslim scholar why Islam omit’s Isaac for Ishmael in (Gen 22:2)?

  8. There have been atrocities committed by Christians but all of these violated God’s word in the Bible. Atrocities committed by Muslims are approved by passages in the Quran.

  9. Thanks for your comment John!

    Sin is sin, and evil is evil, no matter who commits it. Just because it is taught in the Quran does not make it right. The Quran teaches evil, sin, and wickedness, it is a false teaching, just as Allah is a false god.

    God bless!

  10. The scriptures were written over a period of about fifteen hundred years,by multiple authors,on three different continents,it harmonizes perfectly when properly understood,it never contradicts its self,has no need to be interpreted by the wisdom of men,will in fact interpret its self,on the other hand Islam was written by one man,with no supporting witnesses,its author is dead and buried and has been for almost fourteen hundred years,it is impossible to relate to a man who is dead and gone,Yeshua who is Yahweh in Human form,has the ability to live inside of his creation and all of those who will trust in him and obey him,what does Allah(which means Curse in Hebrew) do,he brings death and destruction to his followers,that is Islams contribution to the world,it is a religion of death that has enslaved the those who follow this false god and his false prophet Mohammed,where is there any good at all in this religion,it is a bad tree that can not produce anything but corrupt fruit.

  11. With approximately 1.6 Billion muslims in the world, it is estimated by security and government intelligence agencies that 15-20 % are classed as followers of “radical” islam. That means there are roughly 210,000,000 (the low end of the scale at 15%) that want to kill us…. 210,000,000… so what does it matter whether most of islam is peaceful or not… TWO HUNDRED and 10 MILLION radical jihadis.. Let that sink in for a bit…

  12. Thanks for your comment Jaydude!

    You are correct in your estimation. Could you imagine what it would be like if 75% were radicals?! When things get even worse it could surely happen.

    God bless!

  13. John just lets not confuse the catholic murders and tortures as christian.

    People do this all the time but sorry catholics and christians go together like we would with muslims… catholics believe thru teachings they are brothers to islam and have the same god…. well they do, shouldn’t but the do…. just wait till islam and catholic church get together and murder christians in the last days…

  14. Its been said that the catholic church started islam. You know the rcc killed as many or more christians than muslims have… both are a christians deadly enemy… its a shame more christians dont stand against the rcc…. wow they act as if the killings and torture never happened and all the while it was to make you denounce Christ and accept the catholic way to heaven… which is no way at all.

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